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News: Der
Junker und der Kommunist Dokumentarfilm
von Ilona Ziok, (Musik: Manuel Göttsching
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new Generation of filmmakers with a mission that reveals a Germany unfamiliar To
many Reprinted with permission from Elspeth Tavares ©The
Business Of Film. The new Germany, 20 years after the fall of the Berlin
Wall, is a nation grappling with what could be described as a sociological
identity crisis in terms of the sociological impact some 75 years after
Hitler’s regime. The Business of Film talked with filmmaker Ilona Ziok
about why her three films and subsequent projects resolve around the
interesting perspectives of the consequences of any one individual’s
actions and impact on society, and particularly the subjects of her three
films The Sounds of Silents (about Willy Sommerfeld, the last original
silent movie pianist), Kurt Gerron’s Karussel, and The Count and The
Comrade. Born in Poland, Ilona Ziok lived there for a short but
impressionable time. She attended primary school in England and graduated
from high school in Germany where she studied Political Science
(International Relations), Slavic Literature and Art at Frankfurt
University, named in 1932 after Johann Wolfgang Goethe. Ziok went on to
study theatre and film making in New York and Moscow. It was after her
time spent in Paris that she rediscovered her “Polish” roots and for a
while worked creatively in the Polish film industry. Currently Ilona Ziok
lives in Berlin with renowned musician and composer Manuel Göttsching.
Together they produce films, create music, and initiate cultural events. The Business of Film: The Business of Film has screened
with interest your three feature films, and the common thread is the
exposure of a side of Germany many of us are unfamiliar with. Can you tell
us why, as a filmmaker from Poland, you have taken on these German topics
and taken upon yourself the task of recording such subject matters for
posterity? Ilona Ziok: In terms of filmmaking, I am influenced by the
schools I attended in Moscow and in New York, and by what I later learned
in Poland. But over the years, I have developed an individualistic style
through which I attempt draw the viewer into the heart of the story. I use
the structure of classic drama for documentaries that are based on
archival film footage, interviews and – very important – music. There
are no re-enactments, no narrators, and no comments. Through this method,
I try to captivate the audience’s spirit and heart. I am very interested
in personal stories, but it is never the biography itself which captures
my imagination, but what the hero represents to humanity. The biography is
primarily the vehicle, which shines a penetrating light onto a particular
historical period or topic. The context and the reasons why I choose certain subject
matter, with regard to the topics of my films, stems from my background. I was born in the South of Poland, in a province called
Upper Silesia, which is close to the border of today’s Czech Republic
and Germany. The particular language spoken still today is derived from
both German and Slavic elements and can only be understood by those who
either know it or at least have a passive knowledge of German, Polish and
Czech. Upper Silesia is a country of beautiful landscapes dotted
with castles, and a rich tradition of music and legends. Today, its
largest city is Katowice - known for its famous film school, but even more
so for its philharmonic orchestra, made world famous by composer Henryk
Mikołaj Górecki. The film composer Wojciech Kilar who wrote the
music to Andrzej Wajda’s, Roman Polanski’s, Francis Ford Coppola’s
and Jane Campion’s films among others, also lives in Katowice. The area is rich with history. From Katowice it is 80 km
Southeast to the ancient city of Krakow, a city of the residences of
Polish kings (which is not part of Silesia) and famous for its jazz and
its medieval Jewish quarter Kazimerz. Katowice is also approximately 30 km
south to Oswiecim, which during the Nazi regime became synonymous with the
Nazi death camp Auschwitz. In past centuries due to its well-developed mining and
steel industry, rich agriculture and abundant mineral deposits of coal,
Upper Silesia was a rich enclave. It became the object of numerous
disputes between Austria, Germany, Czech and Poland, and was ruled in turn
by these countries. Depending on the specific period and depending on who
ruled Silesia, it was not unusual that one’s grandfather was an educated
Pole and one’s grandmother was an educated German while the common
language was Silesian - a language which the inhabitants have kept alive
in order to maintain their cultural identity. My mother was born in Silesia, and her father’s ancestors
were from Sergey Eisenstein’s Odessa on the Black Sea, and my father was
born in North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany. He was opposed to the Hitler
regime and fled to Poland, where he was later arrested by the Nazis, but
later escaped with the help of Poles. During the Nazi regime, he lost all
trust in Germany and decided never to return. Consequently, he settled in
Poland, where he met and married my mother in the late 50’s. In 1968, the political situation in Communist Poland was
not comfortable for my mother whose background was not that of a worker,
but one of the richest landowners in Upper Silesia. The situation became
worse and she decided to leave Poland to secure a future for her children.
During the Communist regime and according to regulations, only the
children of workers had guaranteed access to universities, and the
government had also gradually expropriated everything my mother’s family
had once owned. At that time, my parents had divorced, and my mother and
we children were able to immigrate to Germany due to my father’s German
nationality. Distrustful of postwar Germany, my father stayed behind in
Poland. He was convinced that even in the late sixties, many “former”
Nazis held important positions. While I have been working on the
documentary about the highly acclaimed German state attorney Fritz Bauer (working
title: Fritz Bauer: Death by Installments), I learned that my father was
right in this assumption. In a trial known as “the Remer trial” in Brunswick
Lower Saxony, in 1952 Fritz Bauer rehabilitated people who had been part
of the Resistance to the Hitler regime - people like Count Stauffenberg,
the “count” in my film The Count and The Comrade, and my father. In
addition, Fritz Bauer also initiated the now famous Auschwitz trials from
1963-1968, which took place in Frankfurt/Main. It’s from this very
diverse and chequered political and historical background that I find
subjects and subject matter that deeply interest me, and that I make into
films. This includes my interest in film history, music, and art. TBOF: In The Count and The Comrade, do you see similarities
between the way society as a whole was in war-torn Germany, and the
present day social struggles of the ordinary people? IZ: The story of The Count and The Comrade starts during
the world economic crisis in the late twenties. Eighty years later, there
is another economic world crisis. This may make the film particularly
relevant – despite the fact that people in the West are not suffering
the way they did in the twenties because contrary to the twenties, the
West has a better safety net. Still the fear of a further slide downward
is very real. One might even consider this a reflection of society then
and now. It shows what can happen, when people blindly believe in
“solutions” without considering whether these solutions are ethical or
unethical. Eighty years ago, it was Adolf Hitler’s ideology which
promised to save Germans from hunger and unemployment but which instead
lead to the destruction of dozens of countries, the extermination of
millions, and the devastation of Germany itself. The majority of the
German population had believed in Hitler’s ideology. When I watch certain historical programs on German TV, or
feature films about the bombing of German cities, I can’t help but note
the concept in which Germans are portrayed as the victims. This notion was
also present at the end of WWII when Germans found themselves among the
ruins and rubble of the almost total destruction of Germany. What was
missing from the beginning was the insight that Germany’s destruction
was a direct consequence of its invasion of dozens of countries without
any provocation and the murder of millions of civilians in those invaded
countries. In addition, there was the genocide of six million men, women
and children. TBOF: In any of your films is the moral imperative your
sense of justice either for the German people or against the lack of
examination within a society from both inside and out that drives your
depiction of the subjects you cover? IZ: I consider education with strong emphasis on moral
values as important as a good academic education in general. I switched
schools several times, but I graduated from a German high school in
Frankfurt/Main, named after Heinrich Friedrich Karl vom und zum Stein, the
famous German reformer who, together with Karl August Fürst von
Hardenberg – one of the ancestors of the “count” in my above
mentioned film, initiated the so called ‘Prussian reforms’ in 1807.
These reforms included the liberation of farmers from serfdom and most
importantly for Germany, the emancipation of people of Jewish origin.
Hardenberg and vom Stein even aspired to establish a monarchy with civil rights,
liberties
and democratic developments. Theodor W. Adorno, a very influential German
philosopher, writer and composer, also attended this school, as did a
famous German prostitute known as “Red Cora”, who achieved the
legalization of her profession in Germany, with healthcare and the right
for a pension. This was revolutionary, even in the late twentieth century!
Maybe it was the tradition of this school, or perhaps it was my education
in general which taught me to listen to my heart and to know the
difference between ethical and unethical behavior. TBOF: In your
film The Sounds of Silents about Willy Sommerfeld, although somewhat
different it has the same or similar thread that drives why you pick the
subjects that you film. IZ: In The
Sounds of Silents about Willy Sommerfeld, the last original silent movie
pianist from the twenties, I wanted to resurrect a bygone era and show how
this man’s life was shaped by history, which was truly revolutionary in
scope and events. Willy’s knowledge of and love for music withstood
every historical upheaval and kept him alive way beyond the usual life
span. He never “sold out” and didn’t allow himself to become
downtrodden and bitter despite difficult and destructive circumstances.
There is a light in his eyes and a passion for the particular music he
plays, which transcends time and music based on fashionable trends. In his
apparent simplicity, he is an extraordinarily inspiring person and
therefore captured my imagination. To keep his very unique art of accompanying silent films
alive, through improvising and using his musical memory dating back to the
19th century, I looked for a venue in which Willy’s music is the main
“hero”. I told his story through excerpts of silent movies which Willy
Sommerfeld accompanied live for my film. TBOF: Why do you think that society outside of Germany is
unfamiliar with the side of Germany that you expose for the reasons you
have chosen, particularly in The Count and the Comrade? IZ: I don’t think that people outside of Germany are less
familiar with the side of Germany which I expose than Germans are
themselves. After the Hitler regime and after the war was lost by Nazi
Germany, the country was divided into East Germany (belonging to the
Warsaw Pact) and into West Germany (belonging to the Western Alliance).
The Cold War was actually a war between the USA and the Soviet Union, but
the real Iron Curtain ran literally through the heart of Europe -
Germany’s capital: Berlin. For forty years people in the East did not know much about
people in the West, and vice versa. Strangely enough, twenty years after
the unification, this is still the case. In this regard, I consider my
film The Count and The Comrade of value to the present, because it tells
the story of two men who are separated by wealth and class, but who are
united in their resistance to a common enemy, in their case the Hitler
regime. Tracing the lives of Count Hardenberg and Comrade Perlitz from
their involvement in the resistance through the changing tides of
Germany’s post-war division, unification and political events to the
present, the film reflects German history without seeking to pass
judgement on the different political systems in the East and the West and
the respective social order in each. But political memory knows only one victor—at least until
the next revolution. We the artists on the other hand have the obligation
to preserve the memory for posterity. TBOF: Why in your view is Germany itself still
uncomfortable with its past, putting aside the Holocaust? IZ: Germany of course is uncomfortable with its past which
during the Hitler regime turned from “the country of poets and thinkers”
into a country of judges (not necessarily promoting justice!) and
executioners (“das Land der Dichter und Denker wurde Land der Richter
und Henker”). But this does not mean that the Holocaust is put aside. At
issue is the way the Holocaust is being dealt with. There are quite a few
films about this subject, but none of them touch me or I felt dealt with
the deeper issues – especially the documentaries. That’s why I decided
to make the documentary on Kurt Gerron’s Karussel (1999), which makes
people feel, and the story itself goes under their skin and stays there. I
made this film by using music and poetry instead of showing mountains of
dead bodies or by telling how many millions were murdered. Too many dead
bodies repel viewers and research shows statistics don’t affect them. The film Karussel is a portrayal of Kurt Gerron, one of the
most famous German entertainers of the 30s, told within the structure of a
cabaret performance. It was to be Gerron’s last cabaret, which was
performed in the concentration camp Theresienstadt. In 1998 I re-enacted Karussell on stage in Berlin with
artists Ute Lemper, Bente Kahan, Ursula Ofner, Ben Becker, and Max Raabe. I consider this a poignant film - people are so often moved
that they cry at the end or stay for another ten minutes or so in complete
silence. Karussel makes it clear that the Hitler regime destroyed the
Jewish population, and any opponents to its ideology, and along with the
mass murders, the regime also destroyed the essence of German culture.
Without diminishing the enormous suffering and almost incomprehensible
losses to the Jewish population and others who were persecuted and
murdered, it is ultimately the murderers and their supporters who inflict
the most damage on themselves: they destroyed their very souls. Karussel has been shown all over the world and won numerous
acclaimed awards, but not a one in Germany.
This destruction of the soul is perhaps why I had great difficulty
getting financing for the documentary about the German state attorney
Fritz Bauer, who according to the opinion of German politicians and
officials was one of the most important democrats in postwar Germany.
While the German Government supports my film, it was rejected by
institutions, which fund films, and by most of the TV stations.
I was fortunate to find a partner in one of the smaller TV station
based in Saarland SR, making me wonder whether Germany’s present problem
in coming to terms with the legacy of the Nazi regime is still alive. TBOF: How many people outside of intellectuals and students
of history specific to Germany are aware that the camps not only held
the Jewish population but ordinary German citizens? IZ: Besides the Jewish population whom Hitler considered
“Germany’s misfortune and parasites who had to be totally annihilated”,
his other enemies were all those who were ideologically opposed to his
regime, which were first and foremost German communists. But according to
Hitler’s ideology, his regime also exterminated all those considered of
inferior ethnicity: like
Gypsies, Slavic people. Gays, and of course mentally and physically
handicapped Germans also became victims. TBOF: Does that translate to what you are ultimately
putting on record is that Hitler’s Germany did as much to harm its
ordinary citizens as it did the Jewish population? Do you
think society wants to review that, and if it does, is that the dichotomy
in the discomfort? IZ: I have the impression that so far, the German society
does not want to acknowledge the severe damage it inflicted on itself.
Instead it emphasizes the severe suffering it had to endure due to the
bombing by hostile forces and the deportation of its people from the East.
TBOF: Do you believe there is a fundamental need for
society to never cease to examine the complexity of reasons and impact of
the singular decisions individuals make, that reflect the outcome of just
a moment in history or the ability to influence so many? IZ: It is my personal opinion, based on a gut feeling, that
no society can thrive with good prospects into the future when it refuses
to examine its past and the complexity of reasons along with the impact of
individuals on any decision, which she or he makes. The ideology of the
Nazi regime was established both from the top down and from the bottom up.
It will require the same method to truly bring German society back into a
thriving state of being. Personal narratives will humanize this issue and
will allow them entry into one’s heart. The arts are supremely
suited to achieve that. My personal goal of making films is to understand the
dynamics of politics, history and the psychology of human behavior. But
I’m also driven by the deep wish to return the forgotten back to memory.
The famous German entertainer Kurt Gerron was highly criticized after 1945
for having made a Propaganda film for the Hitler’s regime. The truth is
that as an inmate in a concentration camp and as a Jew condemned to death,
Gerron was forced to make this movie. Gerron was gassed in Auschwitz in
October 1944. Fritz Bauer was much hated in the sixties for proving to the
world that the death camp Auschwitz had been a reality and was not a myth,
nor was the Euthanasia program of the handicapped Germans perpetrated by
Hitler’s army during Hitler’s time. I want the “Count” and the
“Comrade” to be remembered for their courage to resist the Hitler
regime and to serve as role models for young Germans. By making The Sounds
of Silents, Willy Sommerfeld, the last original silent movie pianist of
the twenties, shall never be forgotten for his unique art of accompanying
silent films. TBOF: You have already amassed a small but significant and
interesting repertoire. What are your next projects? IZ: Typical of an independent director, producer and author,
I am presently developing several projects. Music is my passion, and Sing
A Song of Socialism is a musical film on the songs of the former DDR (East
Germany) - from Germany’s division to the fall of the wall. Another
project is The Pope’s Eunuch, about the history of castratos, based on
the book by Luca Scarlini. A film about Friedrich Hinkel, the famous
German architect in Sudan, a project on George Gittoes, a famous
Australian painter, who works and paints in war zones (he started during
the Vietnam war). A documentary with American writer Shareen Brysac based
on her book Mildred Harnack and the Red Orchestra, and with director
Philippe Mora (Swastika, Mad Dog) a series of films and facts about
propaganda in the thirties and forties. In addition a project on Henryk
Mikołaj Górecki, the famous Polish-Silesian composer, and the
biggest music impresario ever, Bill Graham (Bill Graham Presents). Known
for Fillmore West in SF and Fillmore East in NY, Graham discovered and
made famous Santana, Jimi Hendrix, Grateful Dead, Neil Young, Janis Joplin
and many others. Graham was born in Berlin into a Jewish-German-Polish
family as Wolfgang Grajaca. This project I am working on with my partner
in San Francisco, Janis Plotkin, and the Bill Graham Foundation.. I am
also very excited about A thrilling project A Spark In The Dark about the
origins of Vishay, one of the world's leading electronics multinational
companies and its founder, a Holocaust survivor who recently acquired the
German giant firm Telefunken. I would also like to make a multimedia show
with the Ufafabrik in Berlin about Werner Richard Heymann, a famous German
composer who wrote the music for Hollywood movies like To Be Or Not To Be,
and Ninochka in addition to many famous films in Germany before he had to
leave Berlin in 1933 because of his Jewish heritage.
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